The Leg Dangle EXPLAINED


Heptagon
Heptagon

I don't think everybody does it for the same reason. On some occasions Marquez can be seen planting his foot, clearly using it as a second contact point for balance under heavy breaking when the rear tire is practically off the ground.

Vor 7 Tage
O Balman
O Balman

Might too be a bit of subliminal muscle memory from bmx riding? making sure to keep the inside pedal from being too low and hitting the ground?

Vor 11 Tage
BMW R1200GS Adventure
BMW R1200GS Adventure

All my mates dangle their legs... it's because they are old gits and get cramp....

Vor 11 Tage
Manu Pillai
Manu Pillai

13 minutes to explain something even street riders do. it is to turn fast at a 90 degree corners, sliding also used to keep proper centifugal balance.

Vor 14 Tage
NELSON Tomas
NELSON Tomas

I do it when am a sleep ... my dog tells me ... because he gets kicked out of the bed

Vor 15 Tage
Mr M
Mr M

Yeah prolly No7

Vor 18 Tage
Worst Teammate
Worst Teammate

Dude was just relieving his sweaty balls and now people are making videos about it

Vor 18 Tage
Cachi -
Cachi -

The reason they do that is to be able to pass gas before they shit their pants entering a corner, not knowing whether that will be the last corner they enter.

Vor 18 Tage
Csab
Csab

They use it as a brake

Vor 19 Tage
Pottasium
Pottasium

I never knew about this, but always did it. I use it for drag or center of mass

Vor 22 Tage
Rob Massicotte
Rob Massicotte

My first rain race I ever did I found myself putting my leg down under hard braking, it was just attomatic, I never thought about it until after the race, I believe it just made me feel more secure, maybe if the front end slipped out, I could catch it with my leg, just like on a dirt track or mx. Even during dry races certain times in very hard braking I still find myself putting my leg out, I totally believe it is just a reflex, due to me having so many years racing dirt bikes, Valentino spends a lot of time flat tracking and I believe it became a reflex for him, and others just followed and when they did they noticed the added security they felt when under hard braking. I 110% believe we put out our leg under hard braking for added security feeling.

Vor 23 Tage
JAY DERRICK
JAY DERRICK

You obviously never rode a bike in your life does anyone know or heard of one cheek off and one cheek on this is the real reason it lifts one cheek off the bike and helps set up for the corner a lot of bikers won’t tell you this but it’s another reason instead of sliding your crack over the side of your seat

Vor 24 Tage
Fabz Rust Rider
Fabz Rust Rider

Thank you 👍🏽

Vor 25 Tage
Bradley Hightower
Bradley Hightower

Looks like rossi was doing it for stability seeing that him and the other bike made contact entering the corner . the other guys look like they just following his lead... Thays just my opinion but like an asshole every body has one

Vor 26 Tage
T Higson
T Higson

Both the video, though badass, and the commentary are incorrect. The following is the science and facts behind such movement: Oh SHIT! I am hauling ass and there's no way I'm going to make that turn!! Apply imaginary brake with foot, which also serves as the only part of my body that is not going to get sucked into my puckering asshole. Upon exit ... Hell yeah, boy!! That was badass and I was flyin!' through that turn!! Lowside at next turn in point but still stoked about previous apex crushing - regardless of $1000 minimum damage to bike. I never got paid to race/ride/wreck my bike. Not even a $20 ... yeah, um, no, K, M nor a B behind that number. That is all this "technique" plays out. Yes, you are welcome.

Vor 29 Tage
Tim Grinton
Tim Grinton

Dude it so if they slide off there leg and foot don’t get smooshed

Vor Monat
One2
One2

There’s no need to make a video about this. MotoGP Rider’s have already mentioned that it happens naturally to stabilize the bike. Much like when the rear end break loose on a dirt bike. Can’t believe this video has 10K likes. SMH.

Vor Monat
Bernard Lim
Bernard Lim

None of the above...

Vor Monat
Bobsyouruncle Wilson
Bobsyouruncle Wilson

To paraphrase you I think you have "framed the question" incorrectly when referring to # 3. The aerodynamic drag is side specific, pulling the rider in this direction and not just 'drag to to slow the rider down'. Considering after your acknowledgment of the huge affect the riders body has on the Cd (44% in this example) you then go onto nothing but 'opinion' on what you 'feel', that the drag is insignificant ("probably not even measurable"). Talk about contradicting yourself.

Vor Monat
Lawrence MacDonald
Lawrence MacDonald

So stupid on street bike yes on dirt bike useless

Vor Monat
antman3251
antman3251

I don’t know what we learned here but I liked it

Vor Monat
adam smith
adam smith

Theory #2 is for sure wrong. You don't want more weight on your arms while breaking, you want less. His demonstration with the bathroom scale is basically shifting his center of gravity forward, but breaking a motorcycle at high speed, you want to keep your center of gravity as far back as possible to keep the rear wheel from going over.

Vor Monat
TombstoneHeart
TombstoneHeart

I think you're trying to make a science out of something a well trained chimpanzee could do and all of this leg dangling stuff has just become a cool, fashionable thing to do. Back in the 60's, Joel Robert, the enfant terrible of international motocross, made a habit of contorting his bike into all sorts of unlikely shapes while still in mid air from a jump. Flying around with the bike in a fully locked up position was the most common one. It served absolutely no purpose, yet in no time flat, every novice rider was doing the same, all the while ignoring the fact that while it may look spectacular, the longer you are up there airborne, the more ground speed you are losing. From what I've seen, this silliness continues to this day. I couldn't quite grasp how having a leg out in the breeze has anything to do with causing or preventing or controlling a drifting or power sliding bike through a corner. In any type of motor sport, any drifting or sliding achieves exactly the same result as hanging up in the air performing tricks with the bike - you lose speed! While it might seem to be an unlikely comparison to make with racing on bitumen, speedway riders are probably the competitors most aware of this, despite spending at least half of every race sideways. There are a lot of things that go into the making of a great speedway rider, but if he can't "read" a track, he might as well give the game away. Reading a track is the ability to see where on the track that he will find the most drive or traction, because races are won and lost by who has the least amount of wheel spin and who hasn't. With everyone mounted on almost identical machinery, this is why some speedway track records can stand for years on end and are only broken when the man who prepares the track does an truly exceptional job and the best reader of the track is usually the one who emerges with the track record. The bit about a motocross rider's cornering technique has, to my mind, nothing at all to do with how a road racer corners, leg dangling or not. Any half decent photo of a motocross rider cornering should show that he doesn't have any say in whether he rides with a foot out or not - he simply has no choice because there is no where else to put it. Personally, I think Mr Rossi is playing a prank on his fellow riders and at each end of season, he sits at home polishing his many trophies and chuckling at seeing his rivals on video following him into a corner, all faithfully and very sheep like, showing a bit of leg.

Vor Monat
Steve Hartwell
Steve Hartwell

Is the dangle used when turning right? Use of the rear brake is lost when dangling whilst turning right...

Vor Monat
D.J.EBAZAPELO
D.J.EBAZAPELO

Only Rossi knows why,..reason is...he thougt he is going to fall so he puts his leg down.Decade later..its a sience, ha ha

Vor Monat
Model Steamers
Model Steamers

The obvious thing would be to just ask the riders why they do it.

Vor Monat
51tomtomtom
51tomtomtom

why always shitty music-inserts ? Are we all afraid of some seconds without noises ?

Vor Monat
justin76bmw
justin76bmw

If you ride dirtbikes you'll understand why...

Vor Monat
Denzel Joseph
Denzel Joseph

Great info and in depth explanation buddy.

Vor Monat
Euphoria52
Euphoria52

Even when I started riding motorcycles as a whole, having never watched or paid attention to motoGP or race styles, I sort of just instinctively dangled my leg for a turn. Its just a natural thing that I have no idea why I do. I figured it was just a second nature movement that my body is doing to ensure I'm stable.

Vor Monat
David Mendoza
David Mendoza

This technique is for sliding control,better braking control,better and easier body weight transfer,helps to get better body position before enter the corners. Maintaining your upper body more straight ...helps you a lot avoiding the tires loose grip during braking. You can brake harder when you maintain the bike straight and this technique helps you a lot with that.! Just remember that the 90% of the overtaking in competitions is during braking. That’s mean that the most important thing bikers has to do for maintain front position during competition is the hard braking ability.!

Vor Monat
Terry Abraham
Terry Abraham

It's my Opinion that the dangling leg is acting as a weighted damper. Much like OEM handle bar ends are weighted and rubber mounted. The riders only seem to feel the need to do this when the bike is upset or oscillating with the rear bouncing or floating giving the rider the feeling of confidence to push harder.

Vor Monat
2Wheels R2Wheels
2Wheels R2Wheels

You downgraded aero braking yet you show 44% increase from raising up a little? The effect of it is increased rate of speed reduction due to aero drag and sometimes contact drag too! @10:33 the boot sole is smoking! Intially it helps control the entry slide they all use. And like it has been said Rossi has a dirt track he practices on so it may have led him to do it on the road course. Finally blocking and head games. Would you attack late into a corner when the leg of the rider ahead is taking up the space? Most would at least hesitate to do so. All top racers play head games. Sometimes the game has a real physical advantage.

Vor Monat
CJ Schmitt
CJ Schmitt

Actually this is an easy explanation you should really solve the mystery as why they don't put their feet on the pegs at the start?????

Vor Monat
newromantic999
newromantic999

Some rider dont dangle their legs though. Some very good ones. Actually.

Vor Monat
bvocal
bvocal

Over the last 20 years riding technique has evolved due to the invention of the slipper clutch and other ways to control clutch slip decelerating/entering corners. This has allowed the new style, for pavement, of 'backing it in' which is all about sliding the rear in a similar fashion to how one initiates a turn when flat tracking. Road Racing is like riding a Horse, you have to let the beast have it's way, let it move around under you, you have to be in harmony with it and all, but you don't clamp yourself down.... no death grip... In the old days, my racing days, you would set up for the corner, sit up, and off and put your knee out and you really don't have anyway to move around much at all in the classic hanging off position, so no way you could let the bike have it's head when the back end is sliding and snapping around so much, you would get chucked right off.... So, put the leg out, make your body a bit of a parachute to help you lift up off the bike a bit and let is have its' head, you get a more stable situation and the added wind resistance helps take weight off your arms and wrists.

Vor Monat
Noah S.
Noah S.

Ya look like Johnny Sinn

Vor Monat
teeburshow
teeburshow

or maybe just to relax their legs since most of the time it is bent.

Vor Monat
genismx gelada
genismx gelada

Im a Rider , thats ussles , is not that complex xD , juat didit couse Rossi or when u barke so hard , intuitonaly

Vor Monat
Maxx SpeedForce
Maxx SpeedForce

Number 7. Doctor him self admitted to this no need technique use, as Rossi himself started this leg dangle technique.

Vor Monat
Everything Motors
Everything Motors

It’s so they can let their big balls hang down to gran sue and slow them down

Vor 2 Monate
narzan q
narzan q

Because their balls are sticky I do that all the time while walking..

Vor 2 Monate
John Rogers
John Rogers

or?? hes stretching his leg in the one place he can do so lol

Vor 2 Monate
Slick Sticky
Slick Sticky

Nobody dragged their knee until Kenny Roberts started doing it.If (leg dangling?)was some sort of an advantage on a road racer you would think Kenny would have done it especially with his dirt track back ground. I think it is just a natural reaction,but was frowned upon by the road race snoots.Until of coarse Rossi did it.

Vor 2 Monate
Lirex__
Lirex__

I personally use it because i find my foot goes in a better position when i bring it back on the peg. Im sure its just blasphamy from our lord rossi though

Vor 2 Monate
brianmathew09
brianmathew09

has never ever been shown to increase a lap time on my stopwatch though

Vor 2 Monate
Bill Bill
Bill Bill

Regardless of its usefulness it’s an ugly technique to watch.

Vor 2 Monate
SPOOKSTR
SPOOKSTR

Rossi: ''I don't know why I do it but I know why everyone else dose''. 46.

Vor 2 Monate
441rider
441rider

IMO it is to create a larger profile on the rear to prevent passing and either create mythic dirt track dreams or relax the muscles in the leg. LOL!

Vor 2 Monate
doo d
doo d

just ask a real racer and there you go...

Vor 2 Monate
Eri Airlangga
Eri Airlangga

Observers explain in 12 minutes. Rossi: _"Didn't know why. It just felt better"_

Vor 2 Monate
LSX_ moe
LSX_ moe

Us dirt bike riders typically throw a leg out for balance and weight distribution throughout a slide, and i know rossi does a lot of offroad riding so i can assume he got it from that

Vor 2 Monate
TheSunExpress
TheSunExpress

The Doc also started doing his dangle while recovering from a leg injury, as a way of coping with pain/reduced function of the leg...

Vor 2 Monate
asher terry
asher terry

I went around a corner too fast and, without thinking, put my leg out and saved myself from crashing.

Vor 2 Monate
Colin Kirkpatrick
Colin Kirkpatrick

Never seen anything like this in all the years I've watched racing, track and road racing. Hailwood, Agostini, Saarinen, Bill Ivy, Phil Read, Joey Dunlop. I could go on. It looks akward and unnecessary

Vor 2 Monate
Tehblood
Tehblood

Fantastic breakdown. Well done

Vor 2 Monate
Cr4zy Goose
Cr4zy Goose

This is brilliant breakdown of possibilities and explained extremely well lol.

Vor 2 Monate
rajendra shakya
rajendra shakya

leg dangling is new to me. in the beginning i was like what are they doing. it brings stability and confidence before cornering. bikes get slippery while braking and vibration it creates. when legs out, central gravity becomes more with body weight causing stability of your bike. weight distribution is different from mx bike to gp bike. gp bike is heavier in front suspension area. mx bikes are lighter in front area as which front bike slides away from corner if u don't put your body weight and sticking your leg out. By doing so ,It gives front wheel more control of bike giving it a good center of gravity. mx bikes are taller meaning less center of gravity as to gp bikes. There are times when i rode my street bike as gp when corning leading me to crash because i lose the grip on front wheel. i changed to mx style riding with legs out , i gain more confidence cornering and stability of my bike while applying braking power. i felt gp body leaning way down tends to scare a heck out of me while cornering. just my opinion. when i saw this video i was like that's true. riding style in gp has changed over the years with new riders with new techniques. I now realized from your video why i changed my riding style from gp to mx style cornering.thanks for the video.

Vor 2 Monate
cheifreal
cheifreal

I never really thought about it. It's just something I been doin since my first bike at 5 years old in the dirt and it just feels natural to me anytime I'm on two wheels. Esp in the mountain Twisties. In fact Everytime I've gone down in the mountains I didn't dangle. I usually do it like the dirtbikers to side of the front wheel. Great confidence builder for me as well as slide control therefore allowing more speed.

Vor 2 Monate
D. C
D. C

They dangle their legs because of DIRT TRACKING experience.

Vor 2 Monate
Josh Lewis
Josh Lewis

I think its a weight transfer thing where the braking g forces make your body lurch forward, you have your hands on the bars which is hinged and the only other point is the outside peg. The force on the outside peg helps push the back of the bike around since it has less traction since all the weight is on the front. So the dangling leg uses weight transfer to bring the back end around to increase the turn in feel

Vor 2 Monate
CannoninDucttape
CannoninDucttape

The best video I've seen in along time on utube and I don't even like motogp

Vor 2 Monate
Dave Jones
Dave Jones

I always thought it was to transfer weight to the back of the bike to help keep the rear wheel down under braking

Vor 2 Monate
Scoot Gord
Scoot Gord

I do this on my Toilet,

Vor 2 Monate
superbikesndrums
superbikesndrums

Reminds me of dirt track racers but perhaps the question should best be answered by Rossi and all of his copy cats!

Vor 2 Monate
YBNalpha
YBNalpha

I always do that on my bycicle,it kinda gives me confidence and makes me feel like i can lean more

Vor 2 Monate
DriveJapan
DriveJapan

Couldn't handle the over complication of this video so I didnt watch it all the way to the end but its for balance control when the bike is in or can go into a more unstable condition. I dont think this was a question that needed to be asked unless you have never even ridden a bicycle. From bicycles to motocross to motogp they all do it and for the same reason. It seems weird someone who seems to understand motorcycles and racing them would make a over complicated video like this.

Vor 2 Monate
Hooker Gaming
Hooker Gaming

This is Bullshit

Vor 2 Monate
David McGregor
David McGregor

ITS CHEATING AND SHOULD BE BANNED

Vor 3 Monate
Deepairdiver
Deepairdiver

Its all bullshit. When i did this on trackdays in spain in 2000's i was called a poof cos i was scared. I was scared. I was trying to scrub off speed before the corner and also being ready to catch the bike if it slipped. All these other reasons cos Rossi did it, ffs. All bullshite...

Vor 3 Monate
xvdd1
xvdd1

It is sayin I am turning left/right stay clear.

Vor 3 Monate
xvdd1
xvdd1

You get pins and needles sometimes so it provides some short term relief.

Vor 3 Monate
Tommy Biggers
Tommy Biggers

dude my head hurts bro..

Vor 3 Monate
LSse Bosch
LSse Bosch

What if yes they do get the extra drag on their legg when breaking, and dangle their legg to be it more like a cats tail, being less stiff?

Vor 3 Monate
vonTASTIC_ Gaming
vonTASTIC_ Gaming

Jussayin' MX riders generally throw the leg out to avoid snapping it off when hard leaning through a bank not for weight transfer

Vor 3 Monate
kippadude8
kippadude8

It helps to balance the bike and rider as they are reaching the limit of the braking and the back wheel starts to come off the ground. They are basically in a balancing act as they wait to find their turn in point. It also helps to bring the back wheel out to help back it in. Think about when you try to balance on something, you instinctively stick your leg out to maintain balance.. 🤙

Vor 3 Monate
Stinker doodle
Stinker doodle

Its clear why Marc Marquez dose it / its to slow down you can see all the smoke coming off is boot and it must work because hes one fast rider. and dangling my leg off my bike dose not inspire confidence unless I'm coming to a stop.....its a mind trick by Rossi.

Vor 3 Monate
984francis
984francis

2:05, Upon reaching this point, the left hand grip slips off the clipon!

Vor 3 Monate
Marc Gardiner
Marc Gardiner

Motocross habits die hard !

Vor 3 Monate
TheWolvesCurse
TheWolvesCurse

can you do a crashanalysis on marco simoncellis lethal accident? what went wrong, what part of the crash actually killed him?

Vor 3 Monate
Sniffmatip
Sniffmatip

The dangle is atleast 30 years old, racers used to do that before they started getting the knee down into the corner. They stopped that because getting the bike on its side clipping the apex is faster than dangling your leg. Dangling to me is a sign of not having confidence or losing control of the machine.

Vor 3 Monate
YZeF R-1
YZeF R-1

I tried it to see what the difference was between one way or the other. I found that 1. It does feel like you create more drag at speed. 2. You feel more stable if your other leg is holding your weight at the gas tank with the inner thigh 3. Your foot more easily returns to the foot peg and positions just right. As opposed to moving it back to the right position for the turn. 4. It becomes very natural feeling and is easily adapted to your style. 5. Like many things in sport riding not one thing is best for every corner. In some corners a traditional braking style is/feels better. Also riders do things that compliment their own personal physical attributes and style.

Vor 3 Monate
Varun REDDY
Varun REDDY

drag

Vor 3 Monate
Jason C
Jason C

So why do they dangle their leg?

Vor 3 Monate
gugu koussevitzky
gugu koussevitzky

always a pleasure

Vor 3 Monate
Archermahly
Archermahly

It is actually very simple. The closest reason listed here is psychological, but for the wrong reasons. They put the leg out when trail braking . When trail braking, it is very easy to lock up the front end. While at the speeds they are braking at, it is unlikely to truly help, THINKING they can keep from falling over by having a foot out gives them a bit more confidence to brake deeper into the corner. It can also be used as a gauge as to how far leaned over you are.... just like a knee, or even elbow. Notice that even marquez, who often dangles the leg (10:00), in one of the later shots (12:00), he does NOT dangle because he knows he is NOT going to be able to pull off a pass of the rider in front of him. He is still braking deep, but not anything that might be cause for alarm. Watch more of the motocross footage, and you will see that they DO use it to pick the bike back up, when they have a lot of lean angle from sliding the rear tire. Rossi rides a LOT of motocross, the technique simply became part of his GP riding. Dangling the leg is actually harder than leaving it on the peg. They aren't conserving energy. When braking there is a lot of force pushing the rider to the front of the bike. Imagine siting on a motorcycle that is hanging by the rear tire, hanging from the ceiling. Letting a leg dangle, that leg is now dead weight, depending on the air speed hitting the leg, it becomes at best neutral. In some scenes, you can see the riders for actually dragging on the pavement...this requires even more effort. The leaning against the scale on the wall shows that it is HARDER to dangle than to not dangle. You are showing that your hands now need to deal with more force, not that you have more leverage. In both cases, you could easily move yourself away from the wall, only with the leg dangling, you had to overcome MORE force to move away from the wall. Simply put, they dangle to save themselves from crashing if they lose the front end (even if it is unlikely to help). You are correct in that Rossi most likely did not start doing it to play mind games.

Vor 3 Monate
david smith
david smith

The leg dangle in my opinion is a corner entry speed distraction,if you fall with your leg out you could almost certainly break your leg,or if your  boot catches to much friction at speed it would flick your leg back in an instant, very painfull,in my opinion a dangle means you not sure what the front tyre is going to do under braking,or braking into a corner,i think it shows no confidence in tyre grip and if you do crash with your leg out you almost certainly not walking away,when moto gp riders use the dangle I immediately lose confidence in their ability to progress further in the race,watch zarco show them round on a slow bike,he knows the dangle is a distraction, everytime you dangle you lose up to 2tenths of a second,if your tyres aren,t gripping slow down and finnish the race and take the points.

Vor 3 Monate
david smith
david smith

I said up to 2tenths of a second,so I still think the dangle is a time wasting distraction, unless you work your bike like a motorcross bike,it works well.

Vor 3 Monate
Archermahly
Archermahly

While I agree that it shows they are concerned about front end traction....and the technique would likely not work to remedy that situation, clearly many of the best riders in the world use this technique regularly, and win races doing it there is NO WAY Rossi and the rest are loosing 2 seconds a lap on a 10 turn circuit. It makes them FEEL safer (reality be damned), feeling safer (confidence) allows you to push, letting you go faster.

Vor 3 Monate
Rule 34
Rule 34

When riding my 50cc moped (laugh all you want) in windy conditions, when the tilt of the road would result in me inching left or right, I'd push out the opposite knee (like if I was going to slide it) to give me a constant force of drag to work against the tilt. It would typically have to be quite windy to affect me travelling 30MPH, but perhaps that constant push on their leg did something similar.

Vor 3 Monate
Rick Zain
Rick Zain

8. To avoid yourself from crash on corners so that your leg would kick your bike back

Vor 3 Monate
Haris Yasin
Haris Yasin

Why does this dude remind me of Scarlett Johansson????

Vor 3 Monate
Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden

I think I should also mention how bad the injuries are when the leg dangle goes wrong. If the foot catches the road at speed it will snap the foot back, breaking the ankle, leg, and possible breaking the pelvis and de-gloving the foot (as per Dr. John Hinds). In a really bad case the injury can cost you that foot.

Vor 3 Monate
Baung Kunyit
Baung Kunyit

Rossi started it in moto gp?... I thought it was jeremy mcwilliam

Vor 3 Monate
g6wings
g6wings

Really good overview and break down of all the details! Thanks for consolidating all the information and for sharing it with us! Two Thumbs up!

Vor 3 Monate
The Mighty Dash
The Mighty Dash

The leg dangle is done to stop the back of the bike from raising off the ground. It moved the centre of balance and centre of gravity.

Vor 3 Monate
Andrew Devereux
Andrew Devereux

a more logical reason is most gp riders started on dirtbikes. and in off season still ride dirtbikes .

Vor 3 Monate
BobaFett MTB
BobaFett MTB

why do u think they do it on the corners? Watch Sam Hill shredding some turns on a mountain bike and the answer is right there

Vor 3 Monate
Andrea Zani
Andrea Zani

I have tried some times on my mountain bike and sure the leg helps you moviing the bike where you want. I don't know it is the same on big motorcicles

Vor 3 Monate
Themayseffect
Themayseffect

Completely overlooked the fact that Rossi got this technique from MX riding. In dirt biking it is almost common practice to use your inside leg as a pivot point for hairpin turns. On oval tracks its also used as a balance point when drifting.

Vor 3 Monate
PABLO ESCOBAR
PABLO ESCOBAR

I just wanna know where did you get that awesome shirt?

Vor 3 Monate
Steve Lawrie
Steve Lawrie

For the professionals, probably. Youtube Dr. John Hinds, if you have the stomach for it. Particularly the one with the guy who did the leg out technique and it went horribly wrong. Warning, not for the squeamish.

Vor 3 Monate
Michael Workinger
Michael Workinger

--- A mad technique. best to keep limbs onboard.

Vor 3 Monate

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